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An inclusive, authentic exploration of First Nations issues from a First Nations perspective. Delivered as an honest but positive conversation between friends, MC & Teela Reid, in under 20 minutes.


Season 1


Allyship vs Tokenism: Here's how to get being an ally right

If you'd like to be one, what does a good ally actually look like? Is slapping a temporary tile up on social media every January 26th enough? Or should non-Indigenous people be wearing First Nations branded clothing, or using Aboriginal slang like 'deadly' or 'gammin'? Is buying First Nations art okay? What about playing a didgeridoo?  In this episode, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian discuss what being an ally is, what it isn't, and how to ensure that if you're aiming to be an ally, you're doing it with authenticity and meaning.

Allyship vs Tokenism: Here's how to get being an ally right

If you'd like to be one, what does a good ally actually look like? Is slapping a temporary tile up on social media every January 26th enough? Or should non-Indigenous people be wearing First Nations branded clothing, or using Aboriginal slang like 'deadly' or 'gammin'? Is buying First Nations art okay? What about playing a didgeridoo?  In this episode, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian discuss what being an ally is, what it isn't, and how to ensure that if you're aiming to be an ally, you're doing it with authenticity and meaning.

19:34

EP22 - S1

27 Sep 23

Yes23 campaign co-chair Rachel Perkins tells us why we need the Voice

Rachel Perkins is a director, producer, screenwriter, presenter, and activist. Her over 30 years of work has garnered much acclaim, with projects focusing on Australian Aboriginal stories including Jasper Jones and Mystery Road. Her latest work, The Australian Wars, explores the many frontier wars and genocide that occurred across the country from the First Fleet landing in 1788 through to the 1920s, and recently took out the 2023 Logie for Most Outstanding Factual or Documentary Program. Currently co-chair for the Yes23 campaign, she joins Teela to talk about what drives and inspires her, the highs and lows of the referendum lead-up, and why she is working so hard to try and get the Yes vote over the line.

Yes23 campaign co-chair Rachel Perkins tells us why we need the Voice

Rachel Perkins is a director, producer, screenwriter, presenter, and activist. Her over 30 years of work has garnered much acclaim, with projects focusing on Australian Aboriginal stories including Jasper Jones and Mystery Road. Her latest work, The Australian Wars, explores the many frontier wars and genocide that occurred across the country from the First Fleet landing in 1788 through to the 1920s, and recently took out the 2023 Logie for Most Outstanding Factual or Documentary Program. Currently co-chair for the Yes23 campaign, she joins Teela to talk about what drives and inspires her, the highs and lows of the referendum lead-up, and why she is working so hard to try and get the Yes vote over the line.

24:35

EP21 - S1

20 Sep 23

Meet Kyah Simon, proud First Nations Matilda and World Cup goal scorer

As the whole country collective backed our bid for the FIFA World Cup trophy last month, new and old fans alike marvelled at the individual histories and efforts of players coming together to make the Matildas.  One of those players is proud Anaiwan and Biripi woman, Kyah Simon.  The first Indigenous Australian player to score a goal in any FIFA Women’s World Cup, she also converted a winning goal in 2010 to help claim the Asian Cup for Australia. Not to mention starring in the 2015 World Cup, 2018 and 2022 Asian Cups, 2016 and 2020 Olympic Games, and was part of our team during the latest World Cup here in Australia. On Blak Matters this week, she joins Teela Reid to take us through the massive highs and lows of the recent World Cup effort, and what it means to be a First Nations player on the Australian squad.  ICYMI, listen to our recent episode about the surprising link between Indigenous Australia and soccer you might not know about here.

Meet Kyah Simon, proud First Nations Matilda and World Cup goal scorer

As the whole country collective backed our bid for the FIFA World Cup trophy last month, new and old fans alike marvelled at the individual histories and efforts of players coming together to make the Matildas.  One of those players is proud Anaiwan and Biripi woman, Kyah Simon.  The first Indigenous Australian player to score a goal in any FIFA Women’s World Cup, she also converted a winning goal in 2010 to help claim the Asian Cup for Australia. Not to mention starring in the 2015 World Cup, 2018 and 2022 Asian Cups, 2016 and 2020 Olympic Games, and was part of our team during the latest World Cup here in Australia. On Blak Matters this week, she joins Teela Reid to take us through the massive highs and lows of the recent World Cup effort, and what it means to be a First Nations player on the Australian squad.  ICYMI, listen to our recent episode about the surprising link between Indigenous Australia and soccer you might not know about here.

20:58

EP20 - S1

13 Sep 23

Treaty vs Voice: How does New Zealand compare to Australia?

As Australia nears our referendum to vote on including an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in our Constitution, how does it compare to how our major neighbour New Zealand represents First Nations Peoples? The Treaty of Waitangi - an agreement between the British Crown and Maori Chiefs - was signed in 1840. Has it had positive consequences for the Maori people? Or are there still difficulties interpreting a document written and agreed upon so long ago?   This week on Blak Matters, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian are joined by Professor Dominic O’Sullivan, proud Māori man and expert on the politics of Indigenous peoples, on the differences between the invasion of New Zealand and Australia, why New Zealand has a treaty and we don’t, and what we can learn from their example.

Treaty vs Voice: How does New Zealand compare to Australia?

As Australia nears our referendum to vote on including an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in our Constitution, how does it compare to how our major neighbour New Zealand represents First Nations Peoples? The Treaty of Waitangi - an agreement between the British Crown and Maori Chiefs - was signed in 1840. Has it had positive consequences for the Maori people? Or are there still difficulties interpreting a document written and agreed upon so long ago?   This week on Blak Matters, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian are joined by Professor Dominic O’Sullivan, proud Māori man and expert on the politics of Indigenous peoples, on the differences between the invasion of New Zealand and Australia, why New Zealand has a treaty and we don’t, and what we can learn from their example.

21:27

EP19 - S1

6 Sep 23

We have a date to vote on the Voice - what can we expect next?

The Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albanese, has officially announced that the country will go to the polls on Saturday, October 14th to vote on both the constitutional recognition of First Nations Australians and the creation of a Voice to Parliament.  Now that we know the date we'll be voting, what can we expect for the next six weeks of the Yes and No campaigns, and what do you need to know before you vote?  This week on Blak Matters Teela Reid is joined by John Paul Janke, co-host of NITV flagship Indigenous news and current affairs show 'The Point', to take us through what we can expect before we're asked to cast our vote.   For more information on the referendum and your voting requirements check out the Australian Electoral Commission FAQ page here. 

We have a date to vote on the Voice - what can we expect next?

The Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albanese, has officially announced that the country will go to the polls on Saturday, October 14th to vote on both the constitutional recognition of First Nations Australians and the creation of a Voice to Parliament.  Now that we know the date we'll be voting, what can we expect for the next six weeks of the Yes and No campaigns, and what do you need to know before you vote?  This week on Blak Matters Teela Reid is joined by John Paul Janke, co-host of NITV flagship Indigenous news and current affairs show 'The Point', to take us through what we can expect before we're asked to cast our vote.   For more information on the referendum and your voting requirements check out the Australian Electoral Commission FAQ page here. 

23:37

EP18 - S1

30 Aug 23

The link between Indigenous Australia and soccer you didn't know about

Did you catch Matildas madness when the national team made it into the top four for the FIFA Women's World Cup? From Tillies team members Kyah Simon and Karen Menzies, to history-making athletes like Cathy Freeman, Ash Barty, Nicky Winmar and Patty Mills, First Nations athletes have been at the forefront of Australia's sporting successes. But did you know that a version of the round ball game was played by Indigenous Australians in 1857? This week on Blak Matters, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian catch up with Emeritus Professor John Maynard to learn more about the surprising link between soccer and our First Nations. Purchase a copy of Professor Maynard's book, The Aboriginal Soccer Tribe, and listen to our full interview with former Jillaroos' Assistant Coach for the Women's Rugby League World Cup and current Pathways Strategy Manager for the NRL Jessica Skinner here.

The link between Indigenous Australia and soccer you didn't know about

Did you catch Matildas madness when the national team made it into the top four for the FIFA Women's World Cup? From Tillies team members Kyah Simon and Karen Menzies, to history-making athletes like Cathy Freeman, Ash Barty, Nicky Winmar and Patty Mills, First Nations athletes have been at the forefront of Australia's sporting successes. But did you know that a version of the round ball game was played by Indigenous Australians in 1857? This week on Blak Matters, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian catch up with Emeritus Professor John Maynard to learn more about the surprising link between soccer and our First Nations. Purchase a copy of Professor Maynard's book, The Aboriginal Soccer Tribe, and listen to our full interview with former Jillaroos' Assistant Coach for the Women's Rugby League World Cup and current Pathways Strategy Manager for the NRL Jessica Skinner here.

25:31

EP17 - S1

23 Aug 23

How should we be teaching 'Australian history' in schools?

What were you taught about First Nations' history at school? Changes are being proposed in NSW to include teaching Indigenous Australians' experience of European settlement for high school students across the state. This week Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian reflect on what they were taught in school, and how language like 'terra nullius' or stating when Australia was 'discovered' impacts our perception of First Nations peoples both in the present and into the future.

How should we be teaching 'Australian history' in schools?

What were you taught about First Nations' history at school? Changes are being proposed in NSW to include teaching Indigenous Australians' experience of European settlement for high school students across the state. This week Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian reflect on what they were taught in school, and how language like 'terra nullius' or stating when Australia was 'discovered' impacts our perception of First Nations peoples both in the present and into the future.

22:19

EP16 - S1

16 Aug 23

Lawyer Eddie Synot breaks down major misinformation about the Voice

Will a Voice to Parliament consult on parking tickets? Does the referendum seek to put race in the constitution? Will a 'Yes' vote lead to a slow down in democratic process?  This week Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian are again joined by lawyer, researcher, and Griffith Law School lecturer Eddie Synot to tackle some key questions surfacing about the Voice. Listen to Part 1 of the Blak Matters misinformation and disinformation special focus here https://tr.ee/GvuD_vp1K7 

Lawyer Eddie Synot breaks down major misinformation about the Voice

Will a Voice to Parliament consult on parking tickets? Does the referendum seek to put race in the constitution? Will a 'Yes' vote lead to a slow down in democratic process?  This week Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian are again joined by lawyer, researcher, and Griffith Law School lecturer Eddie Synot to tackle some key questions surfacing about the Voice. Listen to Part 1 of the Blak Matters misinformation and disinformation special focus here https://tr.ee/GvuD_vp1K7 

26:20

EP15 - S1

9 Aug 23

Are you being misinformed about First Nations issues?

As the referendum on a Voice to Parliament approaches, conflicting information surrounding its function and impact on First Nations peoples is increasing - so how can you tell what's truthful and what's not?  In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian sit down with lawyer, researcher, and Griffith Law School lecturer Eddie Synot to find out the distinction between misinformation and disinformation, and what you can do to make sure you're getting the facts you need.

Are you being misinformed about First Nations issues?

As the referendum on a Voice to Parliament approaches, conflicting information surrounding its function and impact on First Nations peoples is increasing - so how can you tell what's truthful and what's not?  In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela Reid and Michael 'MC' Christian sit down with lawyer, researcher, and Griffith Law School lecturer Eddie Synot to find out the distinction between misinformation and disinformation, and what you can do to make sure you're getting the facts you need.

22:06

EP14 - S1

2 Aug 23

Jessica Skinner: From bush footy to the Jillaroos

Jessica Skinner is a teacher from a rural community in NSW, who went from coaching at the grassroots level to becoming the Jillaroos' Assistant Coach for the Women's Rugby League World Cup. Now as the Pathways Strategy Manager for the NRL, Jess is working hard to provide better representation for First Nations People in the sport, and increasing opportunities - especially for those in regional and rural Australia. In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC sit down with Jess to hear about her journey and what she hopes the future will hold for First Nations females working in professional sports.

Jessica Skinner: From bush footy to the Jillaroos

Jessica Skinner is a teacher from a rural community in NSW, who went from coaching at the grassroots level to becoming the Jillaroos' Assistant Coach for the Women's Rugby League World Cup. Now as the Pathways Strategy Manager for the NRL, Jess is working hard to provide better representation for First Nations People in the sport, and increasing opportunities - especially for those in regional and rural Australia. In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC sit down with Jess to hear about her journey and what she hopes the future will hold for First Nations females working in professional sports.

22:58

EP13 - S1

26 Jul 23

Do you need a pamphlet from the official 'Yes' and 'No' campaigns?

This week, the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) published pamphlets from the official 'Yes' and 'No' camps. Independently written by each campaign without any oversight, editing or fact-checking from the AEC, doubts have been raised. Could they spread and encourage misinformation? Is this worth the cost of printing and delivering the 12 million paper copies? And how much value will they actually provide to the Australian people? In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela & MC speak with a specialist in constitutional law - George Williams AO, Deputy Vice-Chancellor and Scientia Professor at UNSW, so you can find out what you need to know about the Voice pamphlets that will be arriving in your letterbox over the next few weeks.

Do you need a pamphlet from the official 'Yes' and 'No' campaigns?

This week, the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) published pamphlets from the official 'Yes' and 'No' camps. Independently written by each campaign without any oversight, editing or fact-checking from the AEC, doubts have been raised. Could they spread and encourage misinformation? Is this worth the cost of printing and delivering the 12 million paper copies? And how much value will they actually provide to the Australian people? In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela & MC speak with a specialist in constitutional law - George Williams AO, Deputy Vice-Chancellor and Scientia Professor at UNSW, so you can find out what you need to know about the Voice pamphlets that will be arriving in your letterbox over the next few weeks.

20:01

EP12 - S1

19 Jul 23

Cultural load: The extra work asked of First Nation employees

After another NAIDOC Week, comes the opportunity to reflect on what workplaces often ask of First Nations employees. Cultural load is the often invisible extra work placed on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander employees to provide cultural knowledge, education and support. For example, being asked to do a Welcome to Country, a presentation about their culture, or offer advice from a First Nations perspective... All without the reduction of their usual workload, or being offered additional support. In this episode, Teela and MC debrief after this year's NAIDOC Week and unpack how employees and employers can avoid the tolls of cultural load in the workplace.

Cultural load: The extra work asked of First Nation employees

After another NAIDOC Week, comes the opportunity to reflect on what workplaces often ask of First Nations employees. Cultural load is the often invisible extra work placed on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander employees to provide cultural knowledge, education and support. For example, being asked to do a Welcome to Country, a presentation about their culture, or offer advice from a First Nations perspective... All without the reduction of their usual workload, or being offered additional support. In this episode, Teela and MC debrief after this year's NAIDOC Week and unpack how employees and employers can avoid the tolls of cultural load in the workplace.

16:52

EP11 - S1

12 Jul 23

NAIDOC Week 2023 is 'For Our Elders': Nan Millie Ingram's story

NAIDOC Week is an annual opportunity for all Australians to celebrate First Nations Peoples - so what does the 2023 theme 'For Our Elders' mean to those who have spent a lifetime advocating for Aboriginal rights across the country? Nan Millie Ingram is a Wiradjuri matriarch who was forced onto the Erambie Mission as a child. In this episode of Blak Matters she shares the changes she has seen throughout her lifetime, and where she would like to see our country go into the future.

NAIDOC Week 2023 is 'For Our Elders': Nan Millie Ingram's story

NAIDOC Week is an annual opportunity for all Australians to celebrate First Nations Peoples - so what does the 2023 theme 'For Our Elders' mean to those who have spent a lifetime advocating for Aboriginal rights across the country? Nan Millie Ingram is a Wiradjuri matriarch who was forced onto the Erambie Mission as a child. In this episode of Blak Matters she shares the changes she has seen throughout her lifetime, and where she would like to see our country go into the future.

19:14

EP10 - S1

5 Jul 23

Why activist Mililma May changed her vote on the Voice

“I was fearful that a 'Yes' vote would impact on my sovereignty.” Campaigning for the referendum for a First Nations Voice to Parliament has focused heavily on how it will impact First Nations people now and into the future. How has that debate shaped legal educator, writer and Kulumbirigin Tiwi woman Mililma May’s vote? On this episode of Blak Matters, the CEO and Co-Founder of Uprising of the People, which helps to support youth in the Northern Territory and to fight back against youth incarceration, speaks with Teela & MC about her work, her own experience of being arrested during a peaceful protest, and her journey in changing her vote in the referendum on the First Nations Voice to parliament. Find out more about Uprising of the People here.

Why activist Mililma May changed her vote on the Voice

“I was fearful that a 'Yes' vote would impact on my sovereignty.” Campaigning for the referendum for a First Nations Voice to Parliament has focused heavily on how it will impact First Nations people now and into the future. How has that debate shaped legal educator, writer and Kulumbirigin Tiwi woman Mililma May’s vote? On this episode of Blak Matters, the CEO and Co-Founder of Uprising of the People, which helps to support youth in the Northern Territory and to fight back against youth incarceration, speaks with Teela & MC about her work, her own experience of being arrested during a peaceful protest, and her journey in changing her vote in the referendum on the First Nations Voice to parliament. Find out more about Uprising of the People here.

22:38

EP09 - S1

28 Jun 23

The Voice bill has passed the Senate - so what happens next?

Australia has been talking about a referendum on a First Nations Voice to parliament for the entire year - so what does the bill that just passed in the Senate mean for when we’ll be asked to cast our vote?  This week on Blak Matters, we explain what is now kicked into motion for the 'Yes' and 'No' campaigns with this key legal step, as well as what you can expect from the pamphlets set to appear in your letterbox soon. 

The Voice bill has passed the Senate - so what happens next?

Australia has been talking about a referendum on a First Nations Voice to parliament for the entire year - so what does the bill that just passed in the Senate mean for when we’ll be asked to cast our vote?  This week on Blak Matters, we explain what is now kicked into motion for the 'Yes' and 'No' campaigns with this key legal step, as well as what you can expect from the pamphlets set to appear in your letterbox soon. 

20:10

EP08 - S1

21 Jun 23

The highs and lows of Kings Birthday Honours with Narelda Jacobs

Is it the media's job to teach you about the upcoming referendum for a Voice to parliament, or is it your own responsibility to fill the gaps in your knowledge? This week on Blak Matters, Whadjuk Noongar journalist Narelda Jacobs OAM joins Teela Reid and MC to explore the media's role in informing the public about the Voice, and what it means to her to be awarded the Medal of the Order of Australia for her services to the media and to community.

The highs and lows of Kings Birthday Honours with Narelda Jacobs

Is it the media's job to teach you about the upcoming referendum for a Voice to parliament, or is it your own responsibility to fill the gaps in your knowledge? This week on Blak Matters, Whadjuk Noongar journalist Narelda Jacobs OAM joins Teela Reid and MC to explore the media's role in informing the public about the Voice, and what it means to her to be awarded the Medal of the Order of Australia for her services to the media and to community.

24:58

EP07 - S1

14 Jun 23

Why it's time for reckoning instead of reconciliation

Reconciliation Week calls on all Australians to reflect on First Nations' history and how we can improve for the future. Yet as another Reconciliation Week comes to a close, the question begs, where do tea and scones get us on the pathway to recognising the impact of colonisation on First Nations Peoples? This week on Blak Matters, Teela and MC tackle whether 'reconciliation' is the word that we should be using, or if 'reckoning' - both as a country and as individuals, could be more effective. 

Why it's time for reckoning instead of reconciliation

Reconciliation Week calls on all Australians to reflect on First Nations' history and how we can improve for the future. Yet as another Reconciliation Week comes to a close, the question begs, where do tea and scones get us on the pathway to recognising the impact of colonisation on First Nations Peoples? This week on Blak Matters, Teela and MC tackle whether 'reconciliation' is the word that we should be using, or if 'reckoning' - both as a country and as individuals, could be more effective. 

18:03

EP06 - S1

7 Jun 23

Has Stan Grant reminded Australia that it's racist?

The last two weeks have seen torrents of media commentary following journalist Stan Grant's decision to step down as host of ABC's Q+A, due to racist remarks and online threats to him and his family. In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC talk about the treatment of First Nations people who live in the public eye, and the racism they are exposed to. How has this space changed over time - is Australia getting better or worse, and how has social media exacerbated the situation?

Has Stan Grant reminded Australia that it's racist?

The last two weeks have seen torrents of media commentary following journalist Stan Grant's decision to step down as host of ABC's Q+A, due to racist remarks and online threats to him and his family. In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC talk about the treatment of First Nations people who live in the public eye, and the racism they are exposed to. How has this space changed over time - is Australia getting better or worse, and how has social media exacerbated the situation?

18:20

EP05 - S1

31 May 23

Treaties, parliaments, Voice: how do we compare to the rest of the world?

How does the rest of the world compare to Australia in its treatment of Indigenous Peoples, and how did treaties and other agreements shape those relationships going forward?   In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC discuss what other countries have done to give power to their Indigenous Peoples, and how a Voice to parliament is a step towards improving the situation for First Nations in Australia.

Treaties, parliaments, Voice: how do we compare to the rest of the world?

How does the rest of the world compare to Australia in its treatment of Indigenous Peoples, and how did treaties and other agreements shape those relationships going forward?   In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC discuss what other countries have done to give power to their Indigenous Peoples, and how a Voice to parliament is a step towards improving the situation for First Nations in Australia.

16:11

EP04 - S1

24 May 23

Why should I Acknowledge Country?

From your morning meeting to your shopping receipt, suddenly it seems everyone is acknowledging Country. In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC break down the history of Acknowledgment of Country, its meaning, and how to do one with respect and purpose.

Why should I Acknowledge Country?

From your morning meeting to your shopping receipt, suddenly it seems everyone is acknowledging Country. In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC break down the history of Acknowledgment of Country, its meaning, and how to do one with respect and purpose.

15:50

EP03 - S1

17 May 23

The Voice and political compromises

What do you need to win a referendum? In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC break down the wording of the question that will be put to voters at the end of the year, and the political compromises already taking place.

The Voice and political compromises

What do you need to win a referendum? In this episode of Blak Matters, Teela and MC break down the wording of the question that will be put to voters at the end of the year, and the political compromises already taking place.

19:52

EP02 - S1

10 May 23

Who we are, and why Blak Matters

What is the Uluru Statement from the Heart, and how has it led us to a referendum on the Voice? In this first episode of Blak Matters, hosts Teela Reid and MC explore what the Uluru Statement from the Heart really means, and their shared history of growing up in a town of 3,000 people in regional Australia.

Who we are, and why Blak Matters

What is the Uluru Statement from the Heart, and how has it led us to a referendum on the Voice? In this first episode of Blak Matters, hosts Teela Reid and MC explore what the Uluru Statement from the Heart really means, and their shared history of growing up in a town of 3,000 people in regional Australia.

15:12

EP01 - S1

10 May 23

Blak Matters - Trailer

Blak Matters is a weekly podcast exploring all First Nations matters, and why they matter. Hosted with Michael "MC" Christian from the Hit Network and his long-time friend, Teela Reid - Wiradjuri/Weilwan woman, renowned land rights litigation lawyer and advocate for First Nations Peoples. With the upcoming referendum on the Indigenous Voice to parliament, we are a friendly space for all Australians to become more informed on what has led us to this point, what the Voice means, and what it could change for the future of Australia.

Blak Matters - Trailer

Blak Matters is a weekly podcast exploring all First Nations matters, and why they matter. Hosted with Michael "MC" Christian from the Hit Network and his long-time friend, Teela Reid - Wiradjuri/Weilwan woman, renowned land rights litigation lawyer and advocate for First Nations Peoples. With the upcoming referendum on the Indigenous Voice to parliament, we are a friendly space for all Australians to become more informed on what has led us to this point, what the Voice means, and what it could change for the future of Australia.

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8 May 23

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