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The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show

Australian Journalist, TV Presenter and author Jessica Rowe jumps past the small talk, and goes big and deep with some of our most loved personalities. From love to loss, and everything in between Jess will show you a different side of her

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Season 2


Lisa Curry ‘Which part of this is normal?’

Are you happy? Or are you happy enough? asks this weeks guest. Triple Olympian and wellness entrepreneur Lisa Curry has lived her life in the public eye for six decades. She has already endured so much in her lifetime, including losing her beautiful daughter Jaimi and most recently her mum.  In this episode she joins Jess to discuss the private pain she endured watching her beloved daughter struggle, the difficult conversations she had to have around her marriage break up with Grant Kenny, and the big questions we need to ask ourselves to find happiness. The silver lining to Lisa’s life is that she did find love again, in fact Mark, her new love and source of happiness makes a cameo in this episode. Lisa’s memoir is available in all good book stores or to find out about her retreats visit Mali

Lisa Curry ‘Which part of this is normal?’

Are you happy? Or are you happy enough? asks this weeks guest. Triple Olympian and wellness entrepreneur Lisa Curry has lived her life in the public eye for six decades. She has already endured so much in her lifetime, including losing her beautiful daughter Jaimi and most recently her mum.  In this episode she joins Jess to discuss the private pain she endured watching her beloved daughter struggle, the difficult conversations she had to have around her marriage break up with Grant Kenny, and the big questions we need to ask ourselves to find happiness. The silver lining to Lisa’s life is that she did find love again, in fact Mark, her new love and source of happiness makes a cameo in this episode. Lisa’s memoir is available in all good book stores or to find out about her retreats visit Mali

40:37

EP15 - S2

24 May 22

Natalie Bassingthwaighte ‘I was ashamed, I was embarrassed’

Natalie Bassingthwaighte is an acclaimed performer and one of Australia's most recognisable faces. She acts, sings, dances, is a rockstar, performs in musical theatre, and is a TV host.  Nat has been open about the mental health challenges she’s experienced over the years, and in this episode Jess & Nat dig deep on how she went from breakdown to breakthrough and reached a much happier and zen like place in her life. From relocating to Byron Bay to embrace a more laid-back lifestyle, through to her toolbox of techniques she’s used to unlock the art of mental wellbeing, Nat has done the hard work and generously shares her mental health journey with us in this open and honest conversation. If you'd like to stay up to date with Nat you can find her here on instagram, and catch her on Space 22 on ABC iView here 

Natalie Bassingthwaighte ‘I was ashamed, I was embarrassed’

Natalie Bassingthwaighte is an acclaimed performer and one of Australia's most recognisable faces. She acts, sings, dances, is a rockstar, performs in musical theatre, and is a TV host.  Nat has been open about the mental health challenges she’s experienced over the years, and in this episode Jess & Nat dig deep on how she went from breakdown to breakthrough and reached a much happier and zen like place in her life. From relocating to Byron Bay to embrace a more laid-back lifestyle, through to her toolbox of techniques she’s used to unlock the art of mental wellbeing, Nat has done the hard work and generously shares her mental health journey with us in this open and honest conversation. If you'd like to stay up to date with Nat you can find her here on instagram, and catch her on Space 22 on ABC iView here 

38:50

EP14 - S2

10 May 22

Erin Molan ‘That’s something I don’t think I’ll ever get used to’

TV and Radio Star Erin Molan has a work ethic beyond compare. She’s resilient, smart, driven and brave, and has not only helped to break down gender stereotypes for women on TV, she was pivotal in campaigning for new laws around online safety. However for Erin, her proudest achievement is her beautiful young daughter. In this episode Erin opens up about the hardest part of being a single mum and why she doesn't think she’ll ever get used to not having her daughter with her every night. Erin and Jess also dig deep on why her own experience with online bullying drove her to campaign for change, and led to the Prime Minister’s persistence in offering her a job. This episode contains many tears, lots of laughter and plenty of hand holding. Follow the adventures of Erin here on instagram, or you can listen to her daily on Hughesy, Ed and Erin catch up podcast  

Erin Molan ‘That’s something I don’t think I’ll ever get used to’

TV and Radio Star Erin Molan has a work ethic beyond compare. She’s resilient, smart, driven and brave, and has not only helped to break down gender stereotypes for women on TV, she was pivotal in campaigning for new laws around online safety. However for Erin, her proudest achievement is her beautiful young daughter. In this episode Erin opens up about the hardest part of being a single mum and why she doesn't think she’ll ever get used to not having her daughter with her every night. Erin and Jess also dig deep on why her own experience with online bullying drove her to campaign for change, and led to the Prime Minister’s persistence in offering her a job. This episode contains many tears, lots of laughter and plenty of hand holding. Follow the adventures of Erin here on instagram, or you can listen to her daily on Hughesy, Ed and Erin catch up podcast  

38:42

EP13 - S2

26 Apr 22

Indira Naidoo ‘It was the most difficult thing I’ve ever had to do’

Indira Naidoo is a  much loved journalist, author, TV anchor and radio host. Over her 30 year award winning journalistic career, Indira has become well known to many Australians. In this episode Indira and Jess discuss the power of slowing down, putting down our devices and being present in nature to heal. Indira reveals why it was important to not only accept her younger sisters death, but through her grief find meaning and a greater sense of purpose on why she’s here. Indira wants us to know that the joy and the connection that we can find in nature is all around us, we just have to notice it. Follow Indira on instagram and find out more from her beautiful book ‘The Space Between the Stars” Content Warning: This conversation touches on suicide, if this brings up any issues for you, help is available by calling 13 11 14 for a safe place to talk day and night.

Indira Naidoo ‘It was the most difficult thing I’ve ever had to do’

Indira Naidoo is a  much loved journalist, author, TV anchor and radio host. Over her 30 year award winning journalistic career, Indira has become well known to many Australians. In this episode Indira and Jess discuss the power of slowing down, putting down our devices and being present in nature to heal. Indira reveals why it was important to not only accept her younger sisters death, but through her grief find meaning and a greater sense of purpose on why she’s here. Indira wants us to know that the joy and the connection that we can find in nature is all around us, we just have to notice it. Follow Indira on instagram and find out more from her beautiful book ‘The Space Between the Stars” Content Warning: This conversation touches on suicide, if this brings up any issues for you, help is available by calling 13 11 14 for a safe place to talk day and night.

41:38

EP12 - S2

12 Apr 22

Keith Urban 'I'm a work in progress'

Keith Urban is a global superstar. He’s a singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist. But Keith’s not keen to put a label on what he does, he wants his music to do the talking.  Jess and Keith sat down for this intimate conversation ahead of the launch of his latest single ‘Nightfalls’, a song about making it matter right now. Which is also a theme in this revealing conversation: Keith's pursuit of Mindfulness and living in the present moment. In this episode you’ll hear Keith and Jess dig deep, discussing everything from his music, love, parenthood and how we get through this crazy thing called life. Keith says that practicing gratitude and having a good tribe around him keeps him balanced and steady and in the flow of life.  For Keith, the best songs lift him up and pull him forward and ‘Nightfalls’ is definitely that, check it out here

Keith Urban 'I'm a work in progress'

Keith Urban is a global superstar. He’s a singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist. But Keith’s not keen to put a label on what he does, he wants his music to do the talking.  Jess and Keith sat down for this intimate conversation ahead of the launch of his latest single ‘Nightfalls’, a song about making it matter right now. Which is also a theme in this revealing conversation: Keith's pursuit of Mindfulness and living in the present moment. In this episode you’ll hear Keith and Jess dig deep, discussing everything from his music, love, parenthood and how we get through this crazy thing called life. Keith says that practicing gratitude and having a good tribe around him keeps him balanced and steady and in the flow of life.  For Keith, the best songs lift him up and pull him forward and ‘Nightfalls’ is definitely that, check it out here

43:32

EP11 - S2

31 Mar 22

Nazeem Hussain ‘There’s something wrong with my DNA’

Nazeem Hussain is one of the biggest stars of Australian Comedy and a much loved television and radio personality. A regular on international stages, Nazeem is now enjoying a different kind of success with his ground breaking sketches going viral on Tiktok. In this episode you will learn there is so much more to the cheeky comic than his ability to make us laugh. Nazeem and Jess go deep on how he challenges the assumptions and inbuilt prejudices we can unknowingly have about people, and why he loves to flip the power dynamic and make us laugh with him about it. While stand up comedy is his first love, nothing comes in the way of his love for his mum, Nazeem says that success only matters when he knows his mum is proud. He also opens up about his Muslim faith and how it enriches his life by helping him stay centered, gives him a sense of community and belonging, and a reminder that there is a lot to be thankful for. Tickets are now available to see Nazeem in this live show Hussain That? For details visit livenation.com.au

Nazeem Hussain ‘There’s something wrong with my DNA’

Nazeem Hussain is one of the biggest stars of Australian Comedy and a much loved television and radio personality. A regular on international stages, Nazeem is now enjoying a different kind of success with his ground breaking sketches going viral on Tiktok. In this episode you will learn there is so much more to the cheeky comic than his ability to make us laugh. Nazeem and Jess go deep on how he challenges the assumptions and inbuilt prejudices we can unknowingly have about people, and why he loves to flip the power dynamic and make us laugh with him about it. While stand up comedy is his first love, nothing comes in the way of his love for his mum, Nazeem says that success only matters when he knows his mum is proud. He also opens up about his Muslim faith and how it enriches his life by helping him stay centered, gives him a sense of community and belonging, and a reminder that there is a lot to be thankful for. Tickets are now available to see Nazeem in this live show Hussain That? For details visit livenation.com.au

46:59

EP10 - S2

15 Mar 22

International Women's Day

In this special International Women's Day episode, Jess and her guests share stories of smashing stereotypes, influencing behaviour, challenging bias, celebrating women's achievements, and raising awareness. Themes that resonate around this years important event. Guests include Abbie Chatfield, Julia Morris, Dannii Minogue, Courtney Act, Karl Stefanovic, Jess Mauboy, Jackie O, Urzila Carlson, Poh Ling Yeow, Candice Warner, Sarah Wilson, Casey Donovan and Mitch Tambo  Hear Jess reflect on a time early in her TV career when she was reading the news with a male co-anchor and the gender bias that restricted her on air role. Jess spoke up and changed things for women presenting news around the whole country, and she encourages all of us to speak up and raise our voices when we can to help build a more gender equal world. Thanks for joining us for these powerful conversations, we hope they inspire you to live a bigger and brave life! To get involved or find out more about IWD visit here 

International Women's Day

In this special International Women's Day episode, Jess and her guests share stories of smashing stereotypes, influencing behaviour, challenging bias, celebrating women's achievements, and raising awareness. Themes that resonate around this years important event. Guests include Abbie Chatfield, Julia Morris, Dannii Minogue, Courtney Act, Karl Stefanovic, Jess Mauboy, Jackie O, Urzila Carlson, Poh Ling Yeow, Candice Warner, Sarah Wilson, Casey Donovan and Mitch Tambo  Hear Jess reflect on a time early in her TV career when she was reading the news with a male co-anchor and the gender bias that restricted her on air role. Jess spoke up and changed things for women presenting news around the whole country, and she encourages all of us to speak up and raise our voices when we can to help build a more gender equal world. Thanks for joining us for these powerful conversations, we hope they inspire you to live a bigger and brave life! To get involved or find out more about IWD visit here 

44:14

EP09 - S2

7 Mar 22

Peter Overton 'That was our little secret wasn't it?'

Peter Overton is one of Australia’s most loved Journalists. As well as anchoring the News in Sydney every night, he is a reporter for 60 minutes and has clocked up 31 years at Channel Nine, his dream job since he was a boy. Peter is also Jessica’s beloved husband of 18 years. Jess had to convince him to be a guest on todays episode as ‘Petee’, does not like talking about himself, he wants the focus to be on other people and their stories. What you'll learn about him in this conversation is relationships are critical to  Peter who sees everyone as cogs in a wheel, he’s friends with the cleaner, plumber, and the garbo, because they enrich his life and are all part of the same success he enjoys. In this episode Peter also reveals how Jess has brought him out as a person and taught him about mental health, and the moment Jess admitted to him she was silently battling depression with their newborn baby. Peter has since become a passionate advocate for speaking up about Postnatal depression for the fathers out there. We hope you enjoy this beautiful story of ‘Petee’ and his pussycat Jess, proof that opposites really do attract!

Peter Overton 'That was our little secret wasn't it?'

Peter Overton is one of Australia’s most loved Journalists. As well as anchoring the News in Sydney every night, he is a reporter for 60 minutes and has clocked up 31 years at Channel Nine, his dream job since he was a boy. Peter is also Jessica’s beloved husband of 18 years. Jess had to convince him to be a guest on todays episode as ‘Petee’, does not like talking about himself, he wants the focus to be on other people and their stories. What you'll learn about him in this conversation is relationships are critical to  Peter who sees everyone as cogs in a wheel, he’s friends with the cleaner, plumber, and the garbo, because they enrich his life and are all part of the same success he enjoys. In this episode Peter also reveals how Jess has brought him out as a person and taught him about mental health, and the moment Jess admitted to him she was silently battling depression with their newborn baby. Peter has since become a passionate advocate for speaking up about Postnatal depression for the fathers out there. We hope you enjoy this beautiful story of ‘Petee’ and his pussycat Jess, proof that opposites really do attract!

52:29

EP08 - S2

1 Mar 22

Madeleine West 'I chose to tap out of a life that didn't fit me'

Actor, author, philanthropist and mum of 6 Madeleine West decided that she didn’t want to live a life of waking up in the morning and going through the motions of the day to get back into bed. She wanted something more, she wanted a life that fits her. In this episode Jess and Madeleine get raw and honest about how she managed to turn her world upside down and inside out to restart her life, and the impact it had on those closest to her. Madeleine reveals that on the other side of her struggles, hardship, tears and pain is a life she never thought in her wildest dreams she could have and that all good things in life are worth making the effort to achieve. In this episode we also hear of the incredible moment a stranger taught Madeline the power of kindness, and how her relationship with her appearance changed after she was involved in a horrific accident being hit by a bus. Madeleine's podcast ‘Restart’ is available to listen to wherever you get your podcasts 

Madeleine West 'I chose to tap out of a life that didn't fit me'

Actor, author, philanthropist and mum of 6 Madeleine West decided that she didn’t want to live a life of waking up in the morning and going through the motions of the day to get back into bed. She wanted something more, she wanted a life that fits her. In this episode Jess and Madeleine get raw and honest about how she managed to turn her world upside down and inside out to restart her life, and the impact it had on those closest to her. Madeleine reveals that on the other side of her struggles, hardship, tears and pain is a life she never thought in her wildest dreams she could have and that all good things in life are worth making the effort to achieve. In this episode we also hear of the incredible moment a stranger taught Madeline the power of kindness, and how her relationship with her appearance changed after she was involved in a horrific accident being hit by a bus. Madeleine's podcast ‘Restart’ is available to listen to wherever you get your podcasts 

48:01

EP07 - S2

15 Feb 22

Casey Donovan 'It's been very hard to trust people'

After a meteoric rise to fame at the age of 16, Casey Donovan has gone on to become one of Australia’s most versatile performers. The singer, songwriter, TV host, actress, author and proud Indigenous woman continues to inspire us with her strength to keep getting back up no matter what challenges she is faced with. In this episode Jess and Casey dig deep into how she has learned to love herself and be comfortable in her own skin. It’s been hard for Casey to trust people, but through self-work and setting boundaries, she is no longer afraid to speak up about what she wants. Casey reveals to Jess that through learning to respect and accept herself, she was able to find love in the pandemic, and boy is she glowing. Casey has a simple message for us in this episode: Lets judge less and send more love and acceptance into the world. Casey is lighting up the stage in 9 to 5 The Musical. For show info and to find out where else you can catch Casey live visit her website here

Casey Donovan 'It's been very hard to trust people'

After a meteoric rise to fame at the age of 16, Casey Donovan has gone on to become one of Australia’s most versatile performers. The singer, songwriter, TV host, actress, author and proud Indigenous woman continues to inspire us with her strength to keep getting back up no matter what challenges she is faced with. In this episode Jess and Casey dig deep into how she has learned to love herself and be comfortable in her own skin. It’s been hard for Casey to trust people, but through self-work and setting boundaries, she is no longer afraid to speak up about what she wants. Casey reveals to Jess that through learning to respect and accept herself, she was able to find love in the pandemic, and boy is she glowing. Casey has a simple message for us in this episode: Lets judge less and send more love and acceptance into the world. Casey is lighting up the stage in 9 to 5 The Musical. For show info and to find out where else you can catch Casey live visit her website here

45:49

EP06 - S2

1 Feb 22

Abbie Chatfield 'It's damaging the way I see myself'

Abbie Chatfield has built an empire off the back of reality television with her smart and self-deprecating views on sex, politics and body positivity. Her unfiltered opinons have seen her resonate with podcast, TV and radio audiences, proving this tenacious 26 year old is a force to be reckoned with. In this episode Jess and Abbie explore where her confidence comes from, and how we all might all be inspired by Abbie to embrace the younger, wilder parts of ourselves again. Abbie also opens up about her struggle with anxiety and depression from an early age, and how the ‘insane’ volume trolling she’s received since appearing on The Bachelor has impacted her mental health. Abbie is also a great believer in going to therapy when things are good, as that’s when the actual work happens. If this episode raises any emotional distress for you, please talk to someone, or call Lifeline for 24 hour crisis support and suicide prevention services on 13 11 14 If you're like us and cant get enough of Abbie, catch her podcast 'Its a Lot' here, or tune into Abbie's Hot Nights Radio show, 7-9pm weeknights on your local HIT station.

Abbie Chatfield 'It's damaging the way I see myself'

Abbie Chatfield has built an empire off the back of reality television with her smart and self-deprecating views on sex, politics and body positivity. Her unfiltered opinons have seen her resonate with podcast, TV and radio audiences, proving this tenacious 26 year old is a force to be reckoned with. In this episode Jess and Abbie explore where her confidence comes from, and how we all might all be inspired by Abbie to embrace the younger, wilder parts of ourselves again. Abbie also opens up about her struggle with anxiety and depression from an early age, and how the ‘insane’ volume trolling she’s received since appearing on The Bachelor has impacted her mental health. Abbie is also a great believer in going to therapy when things are good, as that’s when the actual work happens. If this episode raises any emotional distress for you, please talk to someone, or call Lifeline for 24 hour crisis support and suicide prevention services on 13 11 14 If you're like us and cant get enough of Abbie, catch her podcast 'Its a Lot' here, or tune into Abbie's Hot Nights Radio show, 7-9pm weeknights on your local HIT station.

41:33

EP05 - S2

18 Jan 22

Jessica Mauboy ‘Maybe music isn’t for me anymore’

While Jessica Mauboy's career continues to skyrocket, you might be surprised to know the singer, songwriter and actor has considered walking away from it all.  Behind the confidence and joy she radiates, has been a feeling of disconnect and a yearning for her loved ones … but something keeps pulling Jess back to her music. In this episode Jess opens up about the moments she’s questioned if she was done with music, feeling torn between her career and the pull of her close knit family back in NT. Jess reflects on growing up in an Indigenous cultural community and why bringing Indigenous languages into schools is important to her …and like a true Boss Lady Jess reveals why her songwriting process has changed with more confidence, and why she’s unapologetic about owning who she is and what she’s entitled to. To bask further in the Glow of Jess, and her music, tour dates and more click here 

Jessica Mauboy ‘Maybe music isn’t for me anymore’

While Jessica Mauboy's career continues to skyrocket, you might be surprised to know the singer, songwriter and actor has considered walking away from it all.  Behind the confidence and joy she radiates, has been a feeling of disconnect and a yearning for her loved ones … but something keeps pulling Jess back to her music. In this episode Jess opens up about the moments she’s questioned if she was done with music, feeling torn between her career and the pull of her close knit family back in NT. Jess reflects on growing up in an Indigenous cultural community and why bringing Indigenous languages into schools is important to her …and like a true Boss Lady Jess reveals why her songwriting process has changed with more confidence, and why she’s unapologetic about owning who she is and what she’s entitled to. To bask further in the Glow of Jess, and her music, tour dates and more click here 

28:38

EP04 - S2

4 Jan 22

Urzila Carlson ‘I think I always knew’

Award-winning Kiwi-South African comedian Urzila Carlson has become one of the biggest names in comedy. Her trademark deadpan humour and cheeky wit has seen her win fans worldwide for her television appearances and live shows. But life hasn't always been easy for Urzila,  In this episode Jess goes deep to discover how this much loved television favourite has used pure grit and laughter to change the course of her life. From a childhood of poverty, violence and bullying, Urzila reveals why her purpose in life is to ‘crack people up’ and how she’s used laugher as a coping mechanism for the tough times. Urzila also explains why she’s never followed the pack and always backed herself, even if it means disapproval from others. URZILA is returning to Australia with her brand-new show, It’s Personal in 2022, tickets are on sale now

Urzila Carlson ‘I think I always knew’

Award-winning Kiwi-South African comedian Urzila Carlson has become one of the biggest names in comedy. Her trademark deadpan humour and cheeky wit has seen her win fans worldwide for her television appearances and live shows. But life hasn't always been easy for Urzila,  In this episode Jess goes deep to discover how this much loved television favourite has used pure grit and laughter to change the course of her life. From a childhood of poverty, violence and bullying, Urzila reveals why her purpose in life is to ‘crack people up’ and how she’s used laugher as a coping mechanism for the tough times. Urzila also explains why she’s never followed the pack and always backed herself, even if it means disapproval from others. URZILA is returning to Australia with her brand-new show, It’s Personal in 2022, tickets are on sale now

39:55

EP03 - S2

21 Dec 21

Poh Ling Yeow ‘I didn’t want to be a stereotype’

Poh Ling Yeow is a creative soul, she cooks, paints, is a makeup artist and graphic designer. Coming from a family of proud Chinese Malaysian home cooks, Poh first came to our attention on Masterchef Australia and has gone on to host her own cooking shows, but there’s far more to Poh than what we see on TV. In this episode Jess goes deep with Poh to find out how she processed her marriage break up, and what allowed their relationship to transform into something beautiful and unbreakable’ while her ex formed a relationship with her best friend. In fact, Poh talks to Jess about the beautiful relationships she has formed with both of her ex-husbands, even calling on them for dating advice Poh also reveals why she always felt ‘different and on the outer’ when growing up in both Australia and Malaysia, being obsessed with American movies and the notion of being popular, and what led to her decision to ‘ditch’ her given name Sharon, and embrace her Chinese name Poh. Catch Poh hosting Snackmasters or visit Jamface by Poh

Poh Ling Yeow ‘I didn’t want to be a stereotype’

Poh Ling Yeow is a creative soul, she cooks, paints, is a makeup artist and graphic designer. Coming from a family of proud Chinese Malaysian home cooks, Poh first came to our attention on Masterchef Australia and has gone on to host her own cooking shows, but there’s far more to Poh than what we see on TV. In this episode Jess goes deep with Poh to find out how she processed her marriage break up, and what allowed their relationship to transform into something beautiful and unbreakable’ while her ex formed a relationship with her best friend. In fact, Poh talks to Jess about the beautiful relationships she has formed with both of her ex-husbands, even calling on them for dating advice Poh also reveals why she always felt ‘different and on the outer’ when growing up in both Australia and Malaysia, being obsessed with American movies and the notion of being popular, and what led to her decision to ‘ditch’ her given name Sharon, and embrace her Chinese name Poh. Catch Poh hosting Snackmasters or visit Jamface by Poh

26:03

EP02 - S2

7 Dec 21

Courtney Act ‘It was harder than coming out’

Shane Jenek aka Courtney Act is a trailblazer, glittering on the international stage as a drag diva, reality star, and one of the first artists of our time to show their gender fluidity. In this episode Jess sits down with the boy, girl, artist and advocate to talk about their search for identity and the importance of spreading queer joy. Courtney shares details of her life changing conversation with Chaz Bono which enabled her to finally stand in the truth of who she was, and why everything made sense in that moment of liberation after years of gender confusion. Courtney also reveals how being honest with her parents about her identity was harder than coming out, and why gender-neutral pronouns are ‘punk’. This episode might just challenge the way you look at identity, and how we all make sense of ourselves in the world. A quick content warning: This episode is created for adult audiences only, and contains references to sex and drug use that may incite pearl clutching. 'Caught in the Act' is available at your local bookstore now, and you can stay up to date with Courtney here

Courtney Act ‘It was harder than coming out’

Shane Jenek aka Courtney Act is a trailblazer, glittering on the international stage as a drag diva, reality star, and one of the first artists of our time to show their gender fluidity. In this episode Jess sits down with the boy, girl, artist and advocate to talk about their search for identity and the importance of spreading queer joy. Courtney shares details of her life changing conversation with Chaz Bono which enabled her to finally stand in the truth of who she was, and why everything made sense in that moment of liberation after years of gender confusion. Courtney also reveals how being honest with her parents about her identity was harder than coming out, and why gender-neutral pronouns are ‘punk’. This episode might just challenge the way you look at identity, and how we all make sense of ourselves in the world. A quick content warning: This episode is created for adult audiences only, and contains references to sex and drug use that may incite pearl clutching. 'Caught in the Act' is available at your local bookstore now, and you can stay up to date with Courtney here

48:36

EP01 - S2

23 Nov 21


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