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What happens when an Australian journalist named Antoinette and an American poet named Antoinette sit down to tackle the world’s biggest and smallest problems? They trade many words and some barbs! There are trials and errors, and plenty of

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Season 1


BONUS EPISODE: The Poem From The Rally That Rocked The Nation

Commissioned poet and the more teary half of The Antoinettes - Azure - studio recorded the poem she wrote and performed at the No More Violence Against Women rallies in Melbourne and Sydney. It's a rallying cry for boys to be raised to respect women. It's a plea for the killing of women from shopping centres to refugee camps to stop, Azure also shares her experiences as a three time sexual assault survivor, and how violence even kills those who are still alive. It is heartfelt. It is passionate. It is urgent (even if it doesn't rhyme). If you or someone you know is experiencing violence or abuse, you can call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732  or text 0458 737 732. --- Look after yourself. It's a shit show out there! We'll catch you again next Thursday. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

BONUS EPISODE: The Poem From The Rally That Rocked The Nation

Commissioned poet and the more teary half of The Antoinettes - Azure - studio recorded the poem she wrote and performed at the No More Violence Against Women rallies in Melbourne and Sydney. It's a rallying cry for boys to be raised to respect women. It's a plea for the killing of women from shopping centres to refugee camps to stop, Azure also shares her experiences as a three time sexual assault survivor, and how violence even kills those who are still alive. It is heartfelt. It is passionate. It is urgent (even if it doesn't rhyme). If you or someone you know is experiencing violence or abuse, you can call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732  or text 0458 737 732. --- Look after yourself. It's a shit show out there! We'll catch you again next Thursday. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

08:27

EP13 - S1

2 May 24

March On: What do Protests Achieve?

We are living through a golden age of public protest. As unprecedentedly large as crowds seem, they're also immediately familiar. So, what do protests achieve, if anything? In many arenas, it seems inequities and injustices are getting worse, not better. Recent anti-protest laws are also making mass assembly harder. Yet, over the weekend tens of thousands of Australians took to the streets demanding #NoMore violence against women. Every weekend for six months, anti-genocide protestors have been protesting against Israel’s government. Days ago, university students in cities across Australia set up encampments in solidarity with American counterparts who have been arrested and demonised for demanding their universities divest from Israel. How do you measure the impact of collective action? Given activists often don’t get to see the change they’re fighting for within their lifetime, what does ‘success’ look like? In this episode, The Antoinettes explore people power. One Antoinette is hopeful and proud of Generation Z, the other Antoinette is teary, weary and doesn’t have faith that progress is attainable. --- Look after yourself. It's a shit show out there! We'll catch you again next Thursday. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

March On: What do Protests Achieve?

We are living through a golden age of public protest. As unprecedentedly large as crowds seem, they're also immediately familiar. So, what do protests achieve, if anything? In many arenas, it seems inequities and injustices are getting worse, not better. Recent anti-protest laws are also making mass assembly harder. Yet, over the weekend tens of thousands of Australians took to the streets demanding #NoMore violence against women. Every weekend for six months, anti-genocide protestors have been protesting against Israel’s government. Days ago, university students in cities across Australia set up encampments in solidarity with American counterparts who have been arrested and demonised for demanding their universities divest from Israel. How do you measure the impact of collective action? Given activists often don’t get to see the change they’re fighting for within their lifetime, what does ‘success’ look like? In this episode, The Antoinettes explore people power. One Antoinette is hopeful and proud of Generation Z, the other Antoinette is teary, weary and doesn’t have faith that progress is attainable. --- Look after yourself. It's a shit show out there! We'll catch you again next Thursday. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

36:32

EP12 - S1

1 May 24

LIVE | Terrorism: Do We Need to Rethink Who it Applies To?

In a special live recording, The Antoinettes talk terrorism and somehow manage to punctuate this dark terrain with plenty of laughs.  In the immediate aftermath of Sydney’s two violent, public attacks, the masses are quick to think (and ask) is this terrorism?  Authorities quickly labelled one attacker a terrorist, but the other had mental health issues and according to his father “just wanted a girlfriend”.  How do we define terrorism, and who does it apply to? What role does the media play in stocking fears and perpetuating stereotypes?  And why is it that some perpetrators and some crimes -- like violent attacks on women -- get exempt from such a label? This episode will explore what the law says, media tropes, racism and if authorities politicise and weaponise “terrorism”. Live from the Racial Justice conference, we ask all the tough and troubling questions and still give the audience something to chuckle about. --- Look after yourself. It's a shit show out there! We'll catch you again next Thursday. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

LIVE | Terrorism: Do We Need to Rethink Who it Applies To?

In a special live recording, The Antoinettes talk terrorism and somehow manage to punctuate this dark terrain with plenty of laughs.  In the immediate aftermath of Sydney’s two violent, public attacks, the masses are quick to think (and ask) is this terrorism?  Authorities quickly labelled one attacker a terrorist, but the other had mental health issues and according to his father “just wanted a girlfriend”.  How do we define terrorism, and who does it apply to? What role does the media play in stocking fears and perpetuating stereotypes?  And why is it that some perpetrators and some crimes -- like violent attacks on women -- get exempt from such a label? This episode will explore what the law says, media tropes, racism and if authorities politicise and weaponise “terrorism”. Live from the Racial Justice conference, we ask all the tough and troubling questions and still give the audience something to chuckle about. --- Look after yourself. It's a shit show out there! We'll catch you again next Thursday. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

35:10

EP11 - S1

24 Apr 24

Good fighting: Have We Forgotten How To De-Escalate?

The troubled and polarised times we live in, and the rise of social media, have created what feels like an age of endless conflict. Rather than fearing or avoiding disagreement, do we need to embrace conflict and try to get really good at it? Conflict is entirely necessary for intellectual, emotional, and even moral growth, but technology and social media has changed how we fight and who we fight with.  Drawing on their own conflicts (with each other!) and others, The Antoinettes hash out their own trials, tribulations and triumphs in the argy-bargy arena. And naturally, there are disagreements and conflicting ideas as they navigate this age-old primal instinct.   Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Good fighting: Have We Forgotten How To De-Escalate?

The troubled and polarised times we live in, and the rise of social media, have created what feels like an age of endless conflict. Rather than fearing or avoiding disagreement, do we need to embrace conflict and try to get really good at it? Conflict is entirely necessary for intellectual, emotional, and even moral growth, but technology and social media has changed how we fight and who we fight with.  Drawing on their own conflicts (with each other!) and others, The Antoinettes hash out their own trials, tribulations and triumphs in the argy-bargy arena. And naturally, there are disagreements and conflicting ideas as they navigate this age-old primal instinct.   Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

37:51

EP10 - S1

17 Apr 24

Standing Room Only: The Fight For Accessibility For People With Disability

What do Johnny Depp, the former Disability Discrimination Commissioner and our very own Azure Antoinette have in common? They’ve all had run-ins with travel authorities because of their dogs.  Getting from A to B is a freedom most people take for granted. But for people living with disabilities, Australia still lags behind other western nations, in its accessibility. No matter how high profile you are or how many times it makes headlines, airlines keep stuffing up their treatment of people with disability -- from the Australian of the Year Dylan Alcott, to the former Disability Discrimination Commissioner and even our own Azure Antoinette whose service dog was just denied travel by two airlines after not being allowed in the country for more than two years..  The United Nations declares it a basic human right to grant persons with disabilities to liberty of movement.  Why does Australia continue to get it wrong given 1 in 5 Aussies live with disability? And how do we compare to other OECD nations?  This episode explores the impact of ableism on dignity and freedom but also the economic loss when companies and governments don't get it right and why Azure is still mad at Johnny Depp. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Standing Room Only: The Fight For Accessibility For People With Disability

What do Johnny Depp, the former Disability Discrimination Commissioner and our very own Azure Antoinette have in common? They’ve all had run-ins with travel authorities because of their dogs.  Getting from A to B is a freedom most people take for granted. But for people living with disabilities, Australia still lags behind other western nations, in its accessibility. No matter how high profile you are or how many times it makes headlines, airlines keep stuffing up their treatment of people with disability -- from the Australian of the Year Dylan Alcott, to the former Disability Discrimination Commissioner and even our own Azure Antoinette whose service dog was just denied travel by two airlines after not being allowed in the country for more than two years..  The United Nations declares it a basic human right to grant persons with disabilities to liberty of movement.  Why does Australia continue to get it wrong given 1 in 5 Aussies live with disability? And how do we compare to other OECD nations?  This episode explores the impact of ableism on dignity and freedom but also the economic loss when companies and governments don't get it right and why Azure is still mad at Johnny Depp. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30:16

EP09 - S1

10 Apr 24

Is Disney’s Fairytale Shine Dimming?

All is not well in the house of the mouse. There's a vicious and public fight over Walt Disney Co.'s board, and late last year its share price hit an almost decade low. Did Disney 'go woke and go broke' as culture warrior rhyming wordsmiths like to suggest?An 82-year-old billionaire who is vying for a seat on Disney's board has criticised Disney’s “woke” film strategy with ‘Black Panther's’ all black cast and ‘Marvels’ all female cast. So is Disney’s fairytale shine finally dimming? In this episode, The Antoinettes take the opportunity to unpack and poke fun at problematic fairytale Disney classics (and their even more frightening book origin stories). One Antoinette, who is a stepmother, gets pretty mad, although she promises she's not evil. Are modern adaptations of Disney classics worth doing (culturally and financially?) Or do we just need new stories and ideas (think Encanto and Coco) rather than reviving old ones and igniting boring culture wars? Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is Disney’s Fairytale Shine Dimming?

All is not well in the house of the mouse. There's a vicious and public fight over Walt Disney Co.'s board, and late last year its share price hit an almost decade low. Did Disney 'go woke and go broke' as culture warrior rhyming wordsmiths like to suggest?An 82-year-old billionaire who is vying for a seat on Disney's board has criticised Disney’s “woke” film strategy with ‘Black Panther's’ all black cast and ‘Marvels’ all female cast. So is Disney’s fairytale shine finally dimming? In this episode, The Antoinettes take the opportunity to unpack and poke fun at problematic fairytale Disney classics (and their even more frightening book origin stories). One Antoinette, who is a stepmother, gets pretty mad, although she promises she's not evil. Are modern adaptations of Disney classics worth doing (culturally and financially?) Or do we just need new stories and ideas (think Encanto and Coco) rather than reviving old ones and igniting boring culture wars? Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

32:25

EP08 - S1

3 Apr 24

Fast Fashion: How The Hell Do We Actually Slow It Down?

Fast fashion is very alluring. It’s cheap, accessible and appears to come in endless designs, sizes and colours. We’re looking at you Shein, Temu, Zara, H&M, ASOS and the like.  However, the cost to the environment, people, and animals is catastrophic. It dries up water sources and pollutes rivers and streams given 85% of all textiles go to dumps each year. Australia is now the second highest consumer of textiles per person in the world, after the USA.  In this episode, one Antoinette makes a damning confession about her relationship with fast fashion. The Antoinettes explore the levers currently available to slow down fast fashion -- including a world first ‘fast fashion’ tax in France -- and whether it's enough. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fast Fashion: How The Hell Do We Actually Slow It Down?

Fast fashion is very alluring. It’s cheap, accessible and appears to come in endless designs, sizes and colours. We’re looking at you Shein, Temu, Zara, H&M, ASOS and the like.  However, the cost to the environment, people, and animals is catastrophic. It dries up water sources and pollutes rivers and streams given 85% of all textiles go to dumps each year. Australia is now the second highest consumer of textiles per person in the world, after the USA.  In this episode, one Antoinette makes a damning confession about her relationship with fast fashion. The Antoinettes explore the levers currently available to slow down fast fashion -- including a world first ‘fast fashion’ tax in France -- and whether it's enough. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

31:29

EP07 - S1

27 Mar 24

Gaza: Are Our Eyes Wide SHUT?

'Trigger warning - this episode contains references to violence, colonialism, racism and trauma which some individuals may find distressing.’  For more than 160 days, we’ve watched human rights atrocities in Gaza live streamed on our phones. Can we unsee what we’re witnessing? In addition to grappling with vicarious trauma from an endless stream of images of death, injury and starving of Palestinian children and other civilians -- there’s growing anger at western leaders for not doing more to stop the carnage. There’s a significant shift in public opinion not only about the senselessness and brutality of the IDF’s ongoing actions, but also the role western leaders and sections of the media have played in allowing it to flourish. The latest conflict has also called into question the strength and purpose of international law, which has been all but ignored.   How do we ever recover from this? Or is it important that we don't?  The Antoinettes have many thoughts, a heap of feelings, as they struggle with a way forward. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Gaza: Are Our Eyes Wide SHUT?

'Trigger warning - this episode contains references to violence, colonialism, racism and trauma which some individuals may find distressing.’  For more than 160 days, we’ve watched human rights atrocities in Gaza live streamed on our phones. Can we unsee what we’re witnessing? In addition to grappling with vicarious trauma from an endless stream of images of death, injury and starving of Palestinian children and other civilians -- there’s growing anger at western leaders for not doing more to stop the carnage. There’s a significant shift in public opinion not only about the senselessness and brutality of the IDF’s ongoing actions, but also the role western leaders and sections of the media have played in allowing it to flourish. The latest conflict has also called into question the strength and purpose of international law, which has been all but ignored.   How do we ever recover from this? Or is it important that we don't?  The Antoinettes have many thoughts, a heap of feelings, as they struggle with a way forward. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTok Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

36:06

EP06 - S1

20 Mar 24

Will Trump Make America Great Again, AGAIN?

Despite the attempted insurrection, being impeached (twice), loads of current lawsuits against him, Donald Trump is the Republican candidate and could be President again.  Should anyone be surprised? Is he the leader the U.S needs? And do we need to accept that Trump is simply an authentic reflection of modern America?  In this episode of The Antoinettes, one Antoinette argues that political mayhem is the only way forward, while the American Antoinette has a very different, very personal take. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Will Trump Make America Great Again, AGAIN?

Despite the attempted insurrection, being impeached (twice), loads of current lawsuits against him, Donald Trump is the Republican candidate and could be President again.  Should anyone be surprised? Is he the leader the U.S needs? And do we need to accept that Trump is simply an authentic reflection of modern America?  In this episode of The Antoinettes, one Antoinette argues that political mayhem is the only way forward, while the American Antoinette has a very different, very personal take. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30:10

EP05 - S1

13 Mar 24

Wellness Fads: Manifesting Nonsense Or The Real Deal?

One of the Antoinettes opens up about her mental health struggles as she faces a very public legal battle. The answer? She’s diving head first into every possible health and wellness fad in an attempt to feel better. The other Antoinette thinks the wellness industry is pseudoscience nonsense that should be ignored. But is it impossible to ignore or write off an industry worth $5.6 trillion (which is greater than Germany’s GDP!). The Antoinettes also hear from their listeners who share their wackiest wellness experiences. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wellness Fads: Manifesting Nonsense Or The Real Deal?

One of the Antoinettes opens up about her mental health struggles as she faces a very public legal battle. The answer? She’s diving head first into every possible health and wellness fad in an attempt to feel better. The other Antoinette thinks the wellness industry is pseudoscience nonsense that should be ignored. But is it impossible to ignore or write off an industry worth $5.6 trillion (which is greater than Germany’s GDP!). The Antoinettes also hear from their listeners who share their wackiest wellness experiences. Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

29:54

EP04 - S1

6 Mar 24

Do We Need International Women's Day Anymore?

International Women’s Day has been sanitised and corporatised beyond recognition. Is it time to put the prosecco down and return IWD to its revolutionary roots? Some believe it’s important to celebrate how far women have come, while others argue there’s little worth applauding given the glacial changes and a fixation on middle class women’s woes.   In this episode, The Antoinettes hash out whether the time has come to axe IWD altogether. This episode was produced by DM Podcasts. Want to support our show? Why not leave us a review and maybe even tell us who your favourite Antoinette is? We'll be your best friend if you hit ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify.  Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do We Need International Women's Day Anymore?

International Women’s Day has been sanitised and corporatised beyond recognition. Is it time to put the prosecco down and return IWD to its revolutionary roots? Some believe it’s important to celebrate how far women have come, while others argue there’s little worth applauding given the glacial changes and a fixation on middle class women’s woes.   In this episode, The Antoinettes hash out whether the time has come to axe IWD altogether. This episode was produced by DM Podcasts. Want to support our show? Why not leave us a review and maybe even tell us who your favourite Antoinette is? We'll be your best friend if you hit ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify.  Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes Keep the chat going on our Facebook group  Follow us on Instagram Follow us on TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

33:00

EP03 - S1

28 Feb 24

What The F#*k Is Going On With Taylor Swift?

Taylor Swift is on Australian shores and fans are losing their minds over the 11 time Grammy Award winning star. While her admirers are loud and proud, those who don’t understand or buy into the hysteria are often too scared to say that in public. It ranges from a fear of being called a bad feminist, and for others, a fear of being beaten to death with a Taylor Swift friendship bracelet. In this episode The Antoinettes discuss the mega Swift brand, whether being a ‘light touch’ feminism progressive is enough, and exclusively reveal a new, and probably real conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift and skincare. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What The F#*k Is Going On With Taylor Swift?

Taylor Swift is on Australian shores and fans are losing their minds over the 11 time Grammy Award winning star. While her admirers are loud and proud, those who don’t understand or buy into the hysteria are often too scared to say that in public. It ranges from a fear of being called a bad feminist, and for others, a fear of being beaten to death with a Taylor Swift friendship bracelet. In this episode The Antoinettes discuss the mega Swift brand, whether being a ‘light touch’ feminism progressive is enough, and exclusively reveal a new, and probably real conspiracy theory about Taylor Swift and skincare. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30:19

EP02 - S1

21 Feb 24

Is It OK To Love The Art Of A Monster?

From Woody Allen to R. Kelly, JK Rowling to Chris Brown -- a creator’s behaviour can stain the books, songs, films and artworks we once loved. What do we do if we abhor their crimes and transgressions but adore their art? How do fans navigate this without an online moral calculator to assess the atrociousness of the crime versus the greatness of the art? The Antoinettes are here to help! Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is It OK To Love The Art Of A Monster?

From Woody Allen to R. Kelly, JK Rowling to Chris Brown -- a creator’s behaviour can stain the books, songs, films and artworks we once loved. What do we do if we abhor their crimes and transgressions but adore their art? How do fans navigate this without an online moral calculator to assess the atrociousness of the crime versus the greatness of the art? The Antoinettes are here to help! Click here to subscribe to The Antoinettes. Keep the chat going on our Facebook group and suggest topics for us to debate! Sign up to the The Antoinettes newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok. The Antoinettes acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. Produced by DM podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

26:58

EP01 - S1

14 Feb 24


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