Change Makers

Change Makers

ChangeMakers Podcast tells stories of people trying to change the world. Each week, host Amanda Tattersall travels the globe, talking to the people involved in extraordinary campaigns, finding out what works - and what doesn't. Hopes, fears

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Season 5


ChangeMaker Chat - Meena Palaniappan - Digital ChangeMaking

Across her career, Meena has led large-scale technological changemaking networks in the Global South. She has developed the resources that have allowed communities to work with each other to respond to crisis and disaster - from floods to Covid. In this episode we learn from how she has created scaled change, focused on listening, valuing people, working with communities, and providing spaces for neighbours to help neighbours.  For more on ChangeMakers Podcast - check us out at https://changemakerspodcast.org/, or on Twitter at @changemakers99 or @amandatatts. 

ChangeMaker Chat - Meena Palaniappan - Digital ChangeMaking

Across her career, Meena has led large-scale technological changemaking networks in the Global South. She has developed the resources that have allowed communities to work with each other to respond to crisis and disaster - from floods to Covid. In this episode we learn from how she has created scaled change, focused on listening, valuing people, working with communities, and providing spaces for neighbours to help neighbours.  For more on ChangeMakers Podcast - check us out at https://changemakerspodcast.org/, or on Twitter at @changemakers99 or @amandatatts. 

42:26

EP56 - S5

18 Oct 21

#ICYMI - Recalling the beginning of Covid and the early seeds of change

Covid has changed the world - not just the pandemic - but equally the challenges and changes to our human systems - how we relate and work together. We recorded this episode back in May 2020 at the beginning of the crisis. It explores three stories where change and hope were making a difference. We looked at healthcare, mutual aid, and the Green New Deal - and saw how people were seeking (and are continuing to build) hope out of difficult times.

#ICYMI - Recalling the beginning of Covid and the early seeds of change

Covid has changed the world - not just the pandemic - but equally the challenges and changes to our human systems - how we relate and work together. We recorded this episode back in May 2020 at the beginning of the crisis. It explores three stories where change and hope were making a difference. We looked at healthcare, mutual aid, and the Green New Deal - and saw how people were seeking (and are continuing to build) hope out of difficult times.

44:14

EP55 - S5

5 Oct 21

Jane McAlevey - ChangeMaker Chat

Jane McAlevey is a fierce advocate for winning social change through organising. Her organising method, grounded in decades of experience, mentorship, and the battles of many movements across US history, is that workers and people need to lead their own change. She specialises in teaching how you can support people to do this.  For unionists, her work is well known - and this episode is a joyous journey into how she came to this approach, and how that approach works. For others in the climate movement or racial justice movements - this is a useful introduction to what Jane means by organising, how it is different to mobilising and some of its crucial features.  If you are interested in Jane’s work, she has published three books and a free online book of case studies that can all be downloaded here - https://janemcalevey.com/. You can find Jane on Twitter at @rsgexp.  She also runs a global training program called Workers Rising - the most recent session is described here and future sessions will be advertised on Jane’s website (you can sign up for updates).  For more on ChangeMakers - check us out at https://changemakerspodcast.org/, or Twitter at @changemakers99 or @amandatatts. 

Jane McAlevey - ChangeMaker Chat

Jane McAlevey is a fierce advocate for winning social change through organising. Her organising method, grounded in decades of experience, mentorship, and the battles of many movements across US history, is that workers and people need to lead their own change. She specialises in teaching how you can support people to do this.  For unionists, her work is well known - and this episode is a joyous journey into how she came to this approach, and how that approach works. For others in the climate movement or racial justice movements - this is a useful introduction to what Jane means by organising, how it is different to mobilising and some of its crucial features.  If you are interested in Jane’s work, she has published three books and a free online book of case studies that can all be downloaded here - https://janemcalevey.com/. You can find Jane on Twitter at @rsgexp.  She also runs a global training program called Workers Rising - the most recent session is described here and future sessions will be advertised on Jane’s website (you can sign up for updates).  For more on ChangeMakers - check us out at https://changemakerspodcast.org/, or Twitter at @changemakers99 or @amandatatts. 

56:26

EP54 - S5

20 Sep 21

Sam Rye - ChangeMaker Chat

This week we explore what it would take to build a movement for nature. Sam Rye is a manager at the Conservation Volunteers Australia. He has been involved in a lifetime of work around regeneration and in networks involving decentralised leadership. He is bringing those two passions together to imagine how people can reimagine their relationship with the earth. For more on ChangeMakers check us out: Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ On Twitter - @changemakers99 or @amandatatts

Sam Rye - ChangeMaker Chat

This week we explore what it would take to build a movement for nature. Sam Rye is a manager at the Conservation Volunteers Australia. He has been involved in a lifetime of work around regeneration and in networks involving decentralised leadership. He is bringing those two passions together to imagine how people can reimagine their relationship with the earth. For more on ChangeMakers check us out: Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ On Twitter - @changemakers99 or @amandatatts

46:56

EP53 - S5

6 Sep 21

Ernie Cortes - ChangeMaker Chat

We talk to one of the biggest names in US community organising, Ernie Cortes. We chat about the history of organising, exploring how it has changed and how it has created a powerful network of organisers that spans the globe. Ernie reflects on the Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) under Saul Alinksy, his work building the IAF after Alinsky’s death, and some of the practices the IAF uses to develop powerful organisers. Across the conversation, Ernie mentions dozens of important references and readings that will be food for any existing and want-to-be change maker. We have put that list on our website too, for those who weren’t quick enough to grab a pen - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ernie-cortes-changemaker-chat/ For more on ChangeMakers check us out: Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ On Twitter - @changemakers99 or @amandatatts 

Ernie Cortes - ChangeMaker Chat

We talk to one of the biggest names in US community organising, Ernie Cortes. We chat about the history of organising, exploring how it has changed and how it has created a powerful network of organisers that spans the globe. Ernie reflects on the Industrial Areas Foundation (IAF) under Saul Alinksy, his work building the IAF after Alinsky’s death, and some of the practices the IAF uses to develop powerful organisers. Across the conversation, Ernie mentions dozens of important references and readings that will be food for any existing and want-to-be change maker. We have put that list on our website too, for those who weren’t quick enough to grab a pen - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ernie-cortes-changemaker-chat/ For more on ChangeMakers check us out: Via our Website - https://changemakerspodcast.org On Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ On Twitter - @changemakers99 or @amandatatts 

48:30

EP52 - S5

23 Aug 21

ICYMI - A different Afghanistan - The Kabul Peace House

As Afghanistan falls again to the rule of the Taiban, we want to share a lesser-known story of hope - the work of the Kabul Peace House. During the 2000s in the mountains of central Afghanistan, soon after the US invasion, a remarkable but unlikely peace movement began. Led by a man called Insaan, they committed to a process of building peace between people. Over decades they created understanding and connection between ethnic groups and genders in ways that invasion and ideology never could. This story was written and recorded by our reporter Mark Isaacs on location in Afghanistan, and first released in 2020. Life in Afghanistan is far more complex than how it is portrayed in the daily Western news, in this episode we celebrate the Afghani community leaders who continue to work for a better place and real peace. You can find out more about this story in the book about Kabul Peace House, by Mark Isaacs - https://markjisaacs.com/product/the-kabul-peace-house/ Find out more about ChangeMakers on our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ You can follow us on Twitter @changemakers99 or our host Amanda Tattersall @amandatatts. Or on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/

ICYMI - A different Afghanistan - The Kabul Peace House

As Afghanistan falls again to the rule of the Taiban, we want to share a lesser-known story of hope - the work of the Kabul Peace House. During the 2000s in the mountains of central Afghanistan, soon after the US invasion, a remarkable but unlikely peace movement began. Led by a man called Insaan, they committed to a process of building peace between people. Over decades they created understanding and connection between ethnic groups and genders in ways that invasion and ideology never could. This story was written and recorded by our reporter Mark Isaacs on location in Afghanistan, and first released in 2020. Life in Afghanistan is far more complex than how it is portrayed in the daily Western news, in this episode we celebrate the Afghani community leaders who continue to work for a better place and real peace. You can find out more about this story in the book about Kabul Peace House, by Mark Isaacs - https://markjisaacs.com/product/the-kabul-peace-house/ Find out more about ChangeMakers on our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ You can follow us on Twitter @changemakers99 or our host Amanda Tattersall @amandatatts. Or on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/

56:36

EP51 - S5

16 Aug 21

ICYMI - Hahrie Han - ChangeMaker Chat

In 2018 we interviewed Hahrie Han one of the United State’s prominent researchers on community organising, community leadership, and social change. This episode explores her research on civic engagement and some of the cut through theorising she has done contrasting ‘mobilising’ and ‘organising strategies. For anyone interested in how people can work together to make powerful change to advance their values and solve their problems - then this is for you! We release this now as Hahrie has just released a co-authored book called Prisms for the People - the next installment of powerful thinking in this space. For more on ChangeMakers - go to https://changemakerspodcast.org For more on Hahrie’s books - https://www.hahriehan.com/books Follow us on Twitter - @changemaker99 or Facebook here

ICYMI - Hahrie Han - ChangeMaker Chat

In 2018 we interviewed Hahrie Han one of the United State’s prominent researchers on community organising, community leadership, and social change. This episode explores her research on civic engagement and some of the cut through theorising she has done contrasting ‘mobilising’ and ‘organising strategies. For anyone interested in how people can work together to make powerful change to advance their values and solve their problems - then this is for you! We release this now as Hahrie has just released a co-authored book called Prisms for the People - the next installment of powerful thinking in this space. For more on ChangeMakers - go to https://changemakerspodcast.org For more on Hahrie’s books - https://www.hahriehan.com/books Follow us on Twitter - @changemaker99 or Facebook here

34:15

EP50 - S5

9 Aug 21

Ed Miliband - ChangeMaker Chat

When can political parties be real change makers and produce big change? Ed Miliband, former Opposition Leader for the UK Labour Party shares some of the lesser-known stories that have shaped his political identity and his ambitions for a politics that can go big. We discuss the role of labour and social democratic parties in the change making space. We reconsider the idea that ‘politics is the art of the possible’ and Ed shares some of his insight into the kind of politics that is needed for these challenging times. We have some follow up resources for this episode: In the episode, Ed makes reference to Arnie Graf. For a ChangeMaker Chat with Arnie go here - https://changemakerspodcast.org/arnie-graf-community-organiser-changemaker-chats/ Ed also mentions Citizens UK. For a podcast with Jonathan Cox Citizen UK's co-director go to - https://changemakerspodcast.org/jonathan-cox-scale-and-organising-changemaker-chat/ Ed mentioned BREXIT, for a ChangeMaker story about how the campaign worked go to - https://changemakerspodcast.org/episode-2-win/ For more information about ChangeMakers, you can find us at https://changemakerspodcast.org/, on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ and on Twitter at @ChangeMakers99

Ed Miliband - ChangeMaker Chat

When can political parties be real change makers and produce big change? Ed Miliband, former Opposition Leader for the UK Labour Party shares some of the lesser-known stories that have shaped his political identity and his ambitions for a politics that can go big. We discuss the role of labour and social democratic parties in the change making space. We reconsider the idea that ‘politics is the art of the possible’ and Ed shares some of his insight into the kind of politics that is needed for these challenging times. We have some follow up resources for this episode: In the episode, Ed makes reference to Arnie Graf. For a ChangeMaker Chat with Arnie go here - https://changemakerspodcast.org/arnie-graf-community-organiser-changemaker-chats/ Ed also mentions Citizens UK. For a podcast with Jonathan Cox Citizen UK's co-director go to - https://changemakerspodcast.org/jonathan-cox-scale-and-organising-changemaker-chat/ Ed mentioned BREXIT, for a ChangeMaker story about how the campaign worked go to - https://changemakerspodcast.org/episode-2-win/ For more information about ChangeMakers, you can find us at https://changemakerspodcast.org/, on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ and on Twitter at @ChangeMakers99

45:27

EP49 - S5

26 Jul 21

ICYMI - Parkland Students

On 14 February 2018 a lone gunman entered Majory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida and killed 17 people. In the days following, a group of students from the school built a campaign to change gun laws in America. Everyday students like Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg became household names as a social movement called March for Our Lives staged a national conversation around gun violence. This episode tells their story featuring teachers, students and parents who were there that day and part of the movement that grew. We released this story in 2020. It is part of a three-part series about March for Our Lives. Episode two is about art and politics after Parkland, and episode three is about identity.  For more on ChangeMakers visit our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/. You can find us on Facebook or on Twitter at @changemakers99.

ICYMI - Parkland Students

On 14 February 2018 a lone gunman entered Majory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland Florida and killed 17 people. In the days following, a group of students from the school built a campaign to change gun laws in America. Everyday students like Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg became household names as a social movement called March for Our Lives staged a national conversation around gun violence. This episode tells their story featuring teachers, students and parents who were there that day and part of the movement that grew. We released this story in 2020. It is part of a three-part series about March for Our Lives. Episode two is about art and politics after Parkland, and episode three is about identity.  For more on ChangeMakers visit our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/. You can find us on Facebook or on Twitter at @changemakers99.

45:42

EP48 - S5

12 Jul 21

ICYMI - Standing Rock

One of President Biden’s first acts was to stop the Keystone Pipeline. It was a victory that arose out of a long battle. First Nations leaders from Standing Rock, in coalition with Indigneous leaders from around the world, initiated this campaign in 2016 to protect their land and water from destruction. But for hundreds of years before this, the Sioux Nations have defended their land and fought for sovereignty. This story features the voices of some of these leaders. The story was first released in 2017, years before the pipeline was stopped. For more about ChangeMakers visit - https://changemakerspodcast.org/.  You can find us on Facebook or on Twitter at @changemakers99. 

ICYMI - Standing Rock

One of President Biden’s first acts was to stop the Keystone Pipeline. It was a victory that arose out of a long battle. First Nations leaders from Standing Rock, in coalition with Indigneous leaders from around the world, initiated this campaign in 2016 to protect their land and water from destruction. But for hundreds of years before this, the Sioux Nations have defended their land and fought for sovereignty. This story features the voices of some of these leaders. The story was first released in 2017, years before the pipeline was stopped. For more about ChangeMakers visit - https://changemakerspodcast.org/.  You can find us on Facebook or on Twitter at @changemakers99. 

37:03

EP47 - S5

28 Jun 21

ICYMI - Building Powerful Coalitions

What does it take to build powerful coalitions between different groups with different interests and passions? The idea of working together sounds nice, but what makes a coalition work when the rubber hits the road. This is an episode of two very different but equally successful coalitions. The first talks to organisers in the coalition that delivered the BREXIT deal in the United Kingdom. The second tells the story of the grassroots leaders who build a coalition to stop gas fields being built across the Northern Rivers of NSW in Australia. Each story draws out crucial, transferable lessons about coalition building, drawn in part from our Host Amanda Tattersall’s book Power in Coalition (2010). There are further links to writing and training about coalition building on our website - www.changemakerspodcast.org (via story page).

ICYMI - Building Powerful Coalitions

What does it take to build powerful coalitions between different groups with different interests and passions? The idea of working together sounds nice, but what makes a coalition work when the rubber hits the road. This is an episode of two very different but equally successful coalitions. The first talks to organisers in the coalition that delivered the BREXIT deal in the United Kingdom. The second tells the story of the grassroots leaders who build a coalition to stop gas fields being built across the Northern Rivers of NSW in Australia. Each story draws out crucial, transferable lessons about coalition building, drawn in part from our Host Amanda Tattersall’s book Power in Coalition (2010). There are further links to writing and training about coalition building on our website - www.changemakerspodcast.org (via story page).

47:44

EP46 - S5

15 Jun 21

Jonathan Cox - Scale and Organising - ChangeMaker Chat

Scale is a buzzword in social change circles, but what does it actually mean to scale social change? Community organiser and Deputy Director of Citizens UK Jonathan Cox unpacks the idea of scale. We discuss the importance of one-to-one relationships, organisation, and networks as resources that help social change ideas move from the small to the big and from place to place.

Jonathan Cox - Scale and Organising - ChangeMaker Chat

Scale is a buzzword in social change circles, but what does it actually mean to scale social change? Community organiser and Deputy Director of Citizens UK Jonathan Cox unpacks the idea of scale. We discuss the importance of one-to-one relationships, organisation, and networks as resources that help social change ideas move from the small to the big and from place to place.

01:03:53

EP45 - S5

31 May 21

Danielle Celermajer - author of Summertime - ChangeMaker Chat

Dany is a philosopher and writer whose latest book Summertime documents her experience inside the 2019 Bushfires. Today we talk about her journey and how she has learnt to speak about crisis. We discuss the power she has drawn from bearing witness. Dany identifies strategies for how change makers can walk with crisis, and harness the power of structural story-telling in how they make change.

Danielle Celermajer - author of Summertime - ChangeMaker Chat

Dany is a philosopher and writer whose latest book Summertime documents her experience inside the 2019 Bushfires. Today we talk about her journey and how she has learnt to speak about crisis. We discuss the power she has drawn from bearing witness. Dany identifies strategies for how change makers can walk with crisis, and harness the power of structural story-telling in how they make change.

46:18

EP44 - S5

17 May 21

ICYMI - Protesting Putin’s Russia

This is an episode we recorded in 2017 in Moscow, telling the long story behind the broad-based resistance movements that have exploded across Russia in support of Alexis Navaley. These leaders have mixed feelings about Navaley as a figure, but the story shows that even in an authoritarian state - people will stand up for their needs - even when they face threat and intimidation. For more on ChangeMakers head to - changemakerspodcast.org You can find us on Twitter @changemakers99 and Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/

ICYMI - Protesting Putin’s Russia

This is an episode we recorded in 2017 in Moscow, telling the long story behind the broad-based resistance movements that have exploded across Russia in support of Alexis Navaley. These leaders have mixed feelings about Navaley as a figure, but the story shows that even in an authoritarian state - people will stand up for their needs - even when they face threat and intimidation. For more on ChangeMakers head to - changemakerspodcast.org You can find us on Twitter @changemakers99 and Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/

49:34

EP43 - S5

3 May 21

Tyson Yunkaporta - Indigenous thinking - ChangeMaker Chats

Tyson Yunkaporta belongs to Apalech clan of North Queensland. He wrote Sandtalk and is an iconoclast - helping us to see things differently in a modern world of crisis and chaos. Join us on a chat that explores a different understanding of power, change, and being.  For more on ChangeMakers go to our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/  Tyson’s book Sandtalk is available here - https://www.textpublishing.com.au/books/sand-talk  The episode is supported by the Learning Change project created by the Anthropocene Transition Community Hub - https://www.at dash hub.org/.

Tyson Yunkaporta - Indigenous thinking - ChangeMaker Chats

Tyson Yunkaporta belongs to Apalech clan of North Queensland. He wrote Sandtalk and is an iconoclast - helping us to see things differently in a modern world of crisis and chaos. Join us on a chat that explores a different understanding of power, change, and being.  For more on ChangeMakers go to our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/  Tyson’s book Sandtalk is available here - https://www.textpublishing.com.au/books/sand-talk  The episode is supported by the Learning Change project created by the Anthropocene Transition Community Hub - https://www.at dash hub.org/.

58:34

EP42 - S5

19 Apr 21

Arnie Graf - Community Organiser - ChangeMaker Chats

Do you need a charismatic leader to make change in the world? Arnie Graf’s life’s work shows the answer is ‘no.’ He’s spent 45 years working with people like you and me to build movements that collectively lead change. This episode talks about how he got there and what he learnt. He shares how he was trained by Saul Alinsky the grandfather of community organising, and he reflects on his book Lessons Learned. Find out more about ChangeMakers - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ Find us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast  Join the discussion on - https://www.facebook.com/groups/changemakerchats/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/changemakers99 

Arnie Graf - Community Organiser - ChangeMaker Chats

Do you need a charismatic leader to make change in the world? Arnie Graf’s life’s work shows the answer is ‘no.’ He’s spent 45 years working with people like you and me to build movements that collectively lead change. This episode talks about how he got there and what he learnt. He shares how he was trained by Saul Alinsky the grandfather of community organising, and he reflects on his book Lessons Learned. Find out more about ChangeMakers - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ Find us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast  Join the discussion on - https://www.facebook.com/groups/changemakerchats/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/changemakers99 

50:20

EP41 - S5

5 Apr 21

Myint Cho - Burmese pro-Democracy Activist - ChangeMaker Chat

Following the 2021 coup by the Burmese military, the Burmese community have built an extraordinary civil disobedience movement to call for the return of democracy. Today we speak to Myint Cho a long-time Burmese pro-democracy activist, active in the student movement in 1988, and then based at the Thai-Burma border for 12 years. He shares the long history of the struggle and explains what is happening today.

Myint Cho - Burmese pro-Democracy Activist - ChangeMaker Chat

Following the 2021 coup by the Burmese military, the Burmese community have built an extraordinary civil disobedience movement to call for the return of democracy. Today we speak to Myint Cho a long-time Burmese pro-democracy activist, active in the student movement in 1988, and then based at the Thai-Burma border for 12 years. He shares the long history of the struggle and explains what is happening today.

43:34

EP40 - S5

22 Mar 21

Sexual Assault - IWD ChangeMaker Special

There is a sexual assault crisis in Australia right now. Today we have a special episode - a re-recorded speech that was delivered by host Amanda Tattersall to 500 year 9 and 10 female and male high school students at a public high school in Sydney’s inner West Sydney for its International Women’s Day Assembly.

Sexual Assault - IWD ChangeMaker Special

There is a sexual assault crisis in Australia right now. Today we have a special episode - a re-recorded speech that was delivered by host Amanda Tattersall to 500 year 9 and 10 female and male high school students at a public high school in Sydney’s inner West Sydney for its International Women’s Day Assembly.

18:16

EP39 - S5

7 Mar 21

Jean Hinchliffe - Student Striker - ChangeMaker Chat

What does it take for a teenager to turn into a planet defender? Jean Hinchliffe is a climate campaigner and a new author of activist handbook Lead the Way. Today she talks about her activist journey and the lessons she has learnt about making powerful change. Find more about ChangeMakers on our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ where you can sign up to our email list for updates. Follow us on Facebook -https://m.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ Or Twitter @changemakers99 or our host Amanda on @amandatatts

Jean Hinchliffe - Student Striker - ChangeMaker Chat

What does it take for a teenager to turn into a planet defender? Jean Hinchliffe is a climate campaigner and a new author of activist handbook Lead the Way. Today she talks about her activist journey and the lessons she has learnt about making powerful change. Find more about ChangeMakers on our website - https://changemakerspodcast.org/ where you can sign up to our email list for updates. Follow us on Facebook -https://m.facebook.com/ChangeMakersPodcast/ Or Twitter @changemakers99 or our host Amanda on @amandatatts

38:47

EP38 - S5

1 Mar 21

Introducing ChangeMakers Season Five

We are back on 2 March. Here is a taster of what is coming.

Introducing ChangeMakers Season Five

We are back on 2 March. Here is a taster of what is coming.

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